Meet the new boss, as dumb as the old boss.

From this morning’s Houston Chronicle:

In the wake of mass shootings this summer, a fusillade of a different sort erupted when gun rights advocates suggested a good Samaritan with a concealed weapon might have saved the day….

Gun control advocates counter that such “hero” scenarios don’t take into account the chances of an inexperienced gun wielder wounding innocent people.

Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, pointed to New York police shooting a gunman in front of the Empire State building last month and wounding nine bystanders.

“If this is the result when you have highly trained police officers, you can only imagine what would happen with average people walking around with hidden weapons,” Gross said.

That’s really odd, because average people walk around with hidden weapons every single day in 48 of 50 states and nothing bad happens. And the “highly trained police officers” thing is by and large a myth. I don’t have a hard statistic, but I’d be willing to bet that there are many civilian gun owners out there who shoot more in a month than your average police officer does in a year. But no matter what, there’s always going to be the chance of collateral damage. Apparently Dan Gross thinks it’s better if such damage is inflicted by police officers, as if it’s some sort of consolation.

But if we are going to play the stats game, besides the Family Dollar assistant manager, how many other innocents have been inadvertently killed or injured by concealed-carry permit holders as opposed to police officers? And how does that number compare to the number of times in which guns are used in self-defense, or the total number of concealed-carry permit holders? The Violence Policy Center’s “Concealed Carry Killers” study has already been thoroughly debunked more than once as inflating the numbers with incidents such as suicides and cases in which charges were thrown out or dismissed, and even if you take the VPC’s numbers as true, it’s still an infinitesimally small percentage of permit holders, let alone the gun-owning population as a whole.

Of course, again, I would never use statistics to justify anything, but it is still worth pointing out.

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3 Responses to “Meet the new boss, as dumb as the old boss.”

  1. 3boxesofbs Says:

    The requirements in Texas for a Basic law enforcement (peace officer) to qualify with a firearm are very similar to the requirements to qualify for a Concealed Handgun License.

    I have the privilege to belong to a great private range; one which many different flavors of LEOs shoot at. Federal Flight Deck Officers, trainers for several different agencies, sheriff deputies, local officers and more. Out of the ones I’ve seen shooting, I would say my skill level is comparable.

    Next is the misconception that one CHL holder would be out of position. Technically that is true but the CHL holder could either maneuver or hold fire until able to get a good shot. But more importantly statistically speaking in most theaters (using Texas numbers) there would be 2 people or more with a CHL. Now the odds against the murder just went down, again.

    And lastly, one of the reasons for the poor performance of officers is they are usually arriving on the situation. A CHL holder would be already on scene, processed who the bad guy is, where he is moving and have more time to act.

    Sorry but in just about every way the concept of having an armed citizen on scene is preferable to having an officer arriving after it has started.

  2. kahr40 Says:

    If a CCW permit holder fires 100 rounds through his gun he’s doing more than most police officers do in a year.

  3. kahr40 Says:

    Correction: If a CCW permit holder fires more than 100 rounds through his gun in a year he/she is doing shooting more than most police officers do in a year.

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